Sunday, February 17, 2013

HF Boards - Sidney Crosby

So last week, we peered into the depths of the value of MAF.  After I wrote that post, the Pens went 3-0-0 with Fleury winning all three games, looking impressive in doing that.
Brandon (@YouMeAndDupuis) and Steve (@HF_Steve) pointed out to me today that there is actually a thread on HF Boards suggesting to trade Crosby.  No lie, they actually suggested the Pens trade Crosby
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1352605

So the Original Proposal would be 
To Pittsburgh:  Tyler Seguin, Dougie Hamilton, and David Krejci
To Boston:       Sidney Crosby

First and foremost, I would say that Sidney Crosby might be the only player in the NHL that would be absolutely untouchable in a trade.  But to add insult to injury this idiot asks 2 really stupid questions.

1. Would this trade HELP or HURT the Penguins product on the ice now, and for the next 6 years?
2. From a value POV, is this a good trade for either team, if not, whats missing?

Well dumbass, let me answer these two questions for you before we see what the brilliant minds on HF Boards have to say.

1. First of all, Crosby is the Captain and leader of the Pens, plus he is playing like he was before he was hurt in 2011.  Secondly, Sid is the backbone to the Pens for the most part, when he's playing well, the team responds the same.  Also bro, he's 2nd in the league in scoring, so I think he's doing just fine in Pittsburgh.
2. There is not good value for this trade because Crosby is untouchable.  He's going to be like Mario and play his entire career for one team, rightfully so.  He's the best player in the game and deserves to only wear one uniform.

But lets see what some of these "Genius GM's" have to say.

Also... I think most teams beat that offer in 5 seconds if it was shopped around as being considered. 

If I was the TML GM, I would offer up way more than this to get him in a Toronto Jersey.

Maybe a first or two... kessel, gardiner, rielly, frattin... etc. Pretty much whatever the Pens wanted if they could take the contract count and salary cap. How many times can you trade for the best player in the game?

I would probably also offer a similar package for Malkin.

Uhhh, Crosby in Toronto??

Canada would have an ultimate hard on for that, but sorry to take a jab at the Leafs here, but I think Crosby is better than virtually all of those players combined let alone individually.  Plus the Leafs would still miss the playoffs with Sid, so its pointless to imagine Sid in Toronto

IceDaddy on HF Boards makes a valid point
1. Crosby is not available
2. No team would give up the assets that would take to acquire Crosby

Then some Pens fan actually makes some sort of counter offer if you will
I would want Bostons entire first line of Lucic, Krejci, Horton plus 2 1sts and then factor his being the face of your team now and the league, how much is that worth to you in roster players, prospects, and picks? If they could still trade money we're talking hundreds of millions the Pens loose out on over Crosby's contract.

Reasoning: The Pens are built around Crosby and the fact he's able to do more with less, more moves would be required.

Why even taunt them dumbass? Do you actually wanna trade Crosby? He also mentions the Pens lose out on Crosby's contract but does he realize what Lucic, Krejci, and Horton make?

Capgeek will help us there

David Krejci - $3.75 million for next 3 years
Milan Lucic - $6.00 million for next 3 years
Nathan Horton - $4.00 million and is UFA after this season

Sidney Crosby - $8.7 million for next 10 years

So besides trading the Best player in the world, well if Clode wants to hand that back to Sid

Yep. Nickelback sends this back to Sid, not that it really left him

But my point is, besides trading the best player in the world, the Pens actually take on a couple million in Cap Space, plus Horton is a Free Agent, so stupid argument bro. By the way, I'm revoking your fan card.
I don't know where it was, but some Assclown said that he thinks Sid will be traded at some point in his career. 

Pretty sure not bro.

among the Bruins fan base, apparently, Crosby has had 3832974774 concussions in his career and is a cross-check away from having to eat through a tube for the rest of his life. so, Crosby wouldn't even be their best player. 

Pretty sure he's as healthy as ever. Byeeee.

Some Bruins fan makes some idiotic trade between the Pens and Caps to show how Bruins fans feel about the trade.  Probably drank a case of Sam Adams before coming up with this trade.

To Pitt:
Ovechkin

To Washington:
Neal
Letang
Kunitz

How does that go over for you Pens fans?

In fairness, I see his point, but also Ovechkin isn't exactly the player Sid is.

Some idiot says trading Crosby would make the Pens better.

In my eyes it is a fair deal for Crosby. If you take a look at their line up after the deal:
Neal; Malkin; Knunitz
Seguin; Krejci;Cooke

Then Hamilton being added with Letang on the top pairing
Hamilton, Legang\

The team would be deeper and better.

So Matt Cooke is in the Top 6, Dupuis isn't, and the best player in the world gone makes the team better?  

Learn how to spell Letang bro.


Okay, I just wanted to use that picture.

At this point, I just wanna go lay down in a pile of gasoline, and light myself on fire for just the fact people are suggesting that this could even be a possibility.

Call me crazy but Pittsburg needs to add. Crosby has concussion issues and were taking a huge risk giving up 3 potential franchise players. I understand Crosby is one of the best players in the Nhl but I would rather have Malkin then Crosby at this point.

Pittsburgh with an H bro.  But Crosby has concussion issues? Tell that to Sid, he's only 2nd in points and looks like he did in 2010.  And I love Geno, but when Sid is on his game, which he seems to be right now, there is NO ONE better, including Geno.  So go back to liking the Blue Jackets or some shit. 

Then some Pens fan takes a jab at the Ovechkin for Neal, Kunitz, and Letang deal.

Considering Ovechkin makes 9.5 mil per and has been less productive than Kunitz since the start of '11-'12, that's a pretty retarded comparison.

We don't want to trade the consensus best player in the world for your young, good players. Or anybody else.

Get over it.

Good point, can't really make fun of this.

Then some Oilers fan says this.

Crosby has 132 points in his last 82 games played, how is he not the player he once was?...

Also Why would Pittsburgh accept that garbage for Crosby, When they could fetch a lot more of an overpayment from any team in the league...I mean If i were the Oilers GM, I would Cough up my 2013 First, 2014 First, Hall, Gagner, Nugent-Hopkins...Which trumps your offer by far.

Good point, on both ends.  But as much as I sorta like the Oilers, theres no way the Pens trade the best player in the world for 3 unproven young stars plus 2 picks, but if I had to pick any deal in this thread, this would probably be the closest value to 87, not that any of this is actually realistic.

Crosby has 136 points in his last 82 games. Boston fans is duuuuumb.

Truueeeeeee.


if we were to trade Crosby to Boston, in my opinion Seguin, Lucic, and one of either Bergeron or Marchand r coming back our way

Pens fan suggested ^.  All I have to say is dude, why even consider offers?

In another thread, some retarded Flames fan suggested

To Calagary:  Sidney Crosby
To Pittsburgh:  10 straight 1st Round Picks.

Dude, I'm not sure if serious, but that doesn't even happen in NHL 13.

Even a Flyers fan told the Calgary dude he sucked.

Soooooooo, what did we learn from this post??

Probably nothing other than people on the HF Boards are probably the dumbest people in the world, scary to think some of these people are allowed to reproduce. 

But long story short, if you feel like jumping off a bridge or something, go to the HF Boards and just read some of the trade rumors, you'll be blown out of your mind.

Hopefully next week we can talk about what type of Shampoo Kris Letang uses.

Shameless twitter plug, but follow me if you want more in depth info @kingling43

Byeeeee.

Go Internet.

Go Pens.


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